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Wednesday, September 14, 2005

Hand History Reviews

On a suggestion from Drizztdj I'm posting my questionable hand histories to get people's opinions of how I played them. Feel free to be as brutaly honest as possible, I'm still a rather green newbie and am open to suggestions.

PokerStars Game #2457542850: Tournament #11930842, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/08/30 - 10:31:19 (ET)
Table '11930842 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: Vision21707 (9890 in chips)
Seat 6: RobCoish (3610 in chips)
RobCoish: posts small blind 75
Vision21707: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vision21707 [Th Qc]
RobCoish: calls 75
Vision21707: raises 150 to 300
RobCoish: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [5d 9s 6s]
Vision21707: bets 450
RobCoish: raises 450 to 900
Vision21707: calls 450
*** TURN *** [5d 9s 6s] [5s]
Vision21707: bets 450
RobCoish: raises 450 to 900
Vision21707: calls 450
*** RIVER *** [5d 9s 6s 5s] [Tc]
Vision21707: bets 7790 and is all-in
RobCoish: calls 1510 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***

Vision21707: shows [Th Qc] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
RobCoish: shows [4s 7s] (a flush, Nine high)
RobCoish collected 7220 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7220 | Rake 0
Board [5d 9s 6s 5s Tc]
Seat 3: Vision21707 (big blind) showed [Th Qc] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 6: RobCoish (button) (small blind) showed [4s 7s] and won (7220) with a flush, Nine high

For this hand, I was playing agressivly and trying to buy the pot initially, after reviewing this hand I'm thinking I should have folded but at what point? Should I have just dumped the hand after the flop, or were the pot odds still there? (I'm still a bit fuzzy on the whole pot odds calculations)


PokerStars Game #2457547378: Tournament #11930842, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/08/30 - 10:32:47 (ET)
Table '11930842 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: Vision21707 (5905 in chips)
Seat 6: RobCoish (7595 in chips)
RobCoish: posts small blind 75
Vision21707: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vision21707 [8c Js]
RobCoish: raises 600 to 750
Vision21707: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Jh 5d Th]
Vision21707: bets 1050
RobCoish: calls 1050
*** TURN *** [Jh 5d Th] [Tc]
Vision21707: bets 1050
RobCoish: raises 1050 to 2100
Vision21707: raises 1050 to 3150
RobCoish: raises 2645 to 5795 and is all-in
Vision21707: calls 955 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Jh 5d Th Tc] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vision21707: shows [8c Js] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
RobCoish: shows [Ts Kd] (three of a kind, Tens)
RobCoish collected 11810 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11810 | Rake 0
Board [Jh 5d Th Tc 3s]
Seat 3: Vision21707 (big blind) showed [8c Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 6: RobCoish (button) (small blind) showed [Ts Kd] and won (11810) with three of a kind, Tens

Question: Should I have simply called after the Turn as he already made it clear that he wasn't going to fold the hand away and then folded if he made a large bet?

PokerStars Game #2552678627: Tournament #12437278, Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2005/09/11 - 17:27:33 (ET)
Table '12437278 4' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: zingtard (37677 in chips)
Seat 3: Vision21707 (29823 in chips)
zingtard: posts the ante 50
Vision21707: posts the ante 50
Vision21707: posts small blind 400
zingtard: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Vision21707 [Ac 4s]
Vision21707: raises 800 to 1600
zingtard: raises 2400 to 4000
Vision21707: raises 4800 to 8800
zingtard: calls 4800
*** FLOP *** [9c 3c 5h]
zingtard: bets 12800
Vision21707: calls 12800
*** TURN *** [9c 3c 5h] [Qc]
zingtard: bets 16027 and is all-in
Vision21707: calls 8173 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [9c 3c 5h Qc] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zingtard: shows [Ah 5d] (two pair, Nines and Fives)
Vision21707: shows [Ac 4s] (a pair of Nines)
zingtard collected 59646 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 59646 | Rake 0
Board [9c 3c 5h Qc 9s]
Seat 2: zingtard (big blind) showed [Ah 5d] and won (59646) with two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 3: Vision21707 (button) (small blind) showed [Ac 4s] and lost with a pair of Nines

Same basic question, at what point should I have gotten out of this hand?